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Yanman.be · Oct 02, 2007, 06:04 PM // 18:04

The complexity of the gw source code is OVER NINE THOUSAAAAAAAAAAAND!

EternalTempest · Oct 02, 2007, 06:32 PM // 18:32

Another reason to not give it away, anet had to develop the engine from scratch and it's one of the most low resouce / great graphics, highly optimised (dialup still works for playing.. not updates) communation, hard to hack (despite dupe bug with re-connect it's been one of the most hack proof), and easy streaming updates It's a beautful game engine / design.

Only way I can see this happening as well is if Google bought them out, and google gave out the code while running the "official" gw server.

magicmatt159 · Oct 02, 2007, 07:18 PM // 19:18

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Originally Posted by EternalTempest

I can give you 4.....
Quake
Quake II
Quake III
Mech Assualt 2

the quake games can be downloaded but full content isnt avalible with out the cd key wich u need to buy with the actual game not a download get your facts straight

Bryant Again · Oct 02, 2007, 07:24 PM // 19:24

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Originally Posted by magicmatt159

the quake games can be downloaded but full content isnt avalible with out the cd key wich u need to buy with the actual game not a download get your facts straight

He was just stating games that had their source released that were successful.

Witchblade · Oct 02, 2007, 07:36 PM // 19:36

some of you are confusing freeware and open source ^^

anyway, an offline play would be great

(not more 007 and lags for me <3 )

Bryant Again · Oct 02, 2007, 07:39 PM // 19:39

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Originally Posted by Witchblade

some of you are confusing freeware and open source ^^

anyway, an offline play would be great

(not more 007 and lags for me <3 )

I think that's the only thing I could ever imagine happening.

But if EQ is still up and running, I doubt GW will ever go out.

magicmatt159 · Oct 03, 2007, 12:48 AM // 00:48

ya i doubt they will shut down gw 1 when gw 2 comes out i remember when runescape 2 came out awhile back.....but they still left 2 servers for original runescape accounts to use (not that many peopel still do)

Sora267 · May 26, 2008, 04:45 AM // 04:45

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Originally Posted by magicmatt159

ya i doubt they will shut down gw 1 when gw 2 comes out i remember when runescape 2 came out awhile back.....but they still left 2 servers for original runescape accounts to use (not that many peopel still do)

ANet has said that as long as one person still wants to play, they'll keep the servers open for that person. Granted, it's a hyperbole, but as long as they've got a userbase, they won't disappoint it.

zwei2stein · May 26, 2008, 05:11 AM // 05:11

I don't get HoM argument against OSing GW ... how would that affect HoM in any way?

Anyway, IF anyone wants solid reasons it is:
* Security throught obscurity. Devs didn't do exactly good job at making secure protocol ... lots of stuff that server should take care of (and which is exploitable for profit) is taken care of at client side, making it vulnerable to all sorts of weird hacks like 32-man party.
* Competition. Anet has lots of technology that other companies would like to get their hands on ... whole server architecture, neat graphics engine, etc etc ... Why be at disadvantage, why save their competitors big bucks?

kb2243 · May 26, 2008, 05:26 AM // 05:26

This is why.

Link to Guild Wars 2

* This feature does not allow characters to be transferred between Guild Wars 1 and Guild Wars 2. However, it allows character names to be reserved and a character linked to a Guild Wars character will inherit some of the original character's accomplishments.
* It does not support transfer of armor, items, characters, or gold. However, acquiring some items in GW1 will confer benefits in GW2 via the Hall of Monuments.
* Each of your GW1 characters has its own Hall of Monuments.

zwei2stein · May 26, 2008, 05:33 AM // 05:33

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Originally Posted by kb2243

This is why.

Link to Guild Wars 2

* This feature does not allow characters to be transferred between Guild Wars 1 and Guild Wars 2. However, it allows character names to be reserved and a character linked to a Guild Wars character will inherit some of the original character's accomplishments.
* It does not support transfer of armor, items, characters, or gold. However, acquiring some items in GW1 will confer benefits in GW2 via the Hall of Monuments.
* Each of your GW1 characters has its own Hall of Monuments.

Yes, that is how it is supposed to work. But how does that connect to open sourcing game?

I hope you are not suggesting that anet would be stupid enough to allow people to tinker with official servers ...

Bront · May 26, 2008, 05:38 AM // 05:38

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Originally Posted by EternalTempest

I can give you 4.....
Quake
Quake II
Quake III
Mech Assualt 2

Quake and Quake II weren't in the last 10 years

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Originally Posted by RSGashapon

Shouldn't Duke Nukem 3D be on that list as well? Original Doom as well, if I remember correctly.

Same.

Basicly, games only go open source once they've exhausted their funding and releasing the code won't cause problems or reveal anything already unknown that may be used in future products. An MMORPG is even less likely to go open source, particularly because it would become a competitor to it's own sequal in the hands of the public, and could expose some of the network communication to hacking.

The only way it might go open source, is once the very last GW server is dead on A-net, which is most likely only going to happen around the time of GW3 or 4.

MoriaOrc · May 26, 2008, 06:13 AM // 06:13

I believe Half-Life 2 had it's source code leaked about a month before launch. Not an official release by the company, but the source was still out there in something close to it's launch state.

blurmedia · May 26, 2008, 06:47 AM // 06:47

lol bump ?

Pleikki · May 26, 2008, 06:50 AM // 06:50

It wont or atleast i hope it wont.

Longasc · May 26, 2008, 06:51 AM // 06:51

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Originally Posted by Aera Lure

It'll never happen, for the reason quoted above. GW servers are open as long as GW2 is around, since that is the concept behind HoM, ie the ability to go back at any time and finish a title for a GW2 unlock.

I heard about a rumor that the Hom gets "closed" the moment GW2 goes online.

Does not make much sense, but someone said he quoted Jeff Strain. Maybe someone can find the source...

GW made good money, and I see no reason why every aging MMO should go open source. GW still has quite some value, after all.

zwei2stein · May 26, 2008, 06:53 AM // 06:53

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Originally Posted by Longasc

I heard about a rumor that the Hom gets "closed" the moment GW2 goes online.

Does not make much sense, but someone said he quoted Jeff Strain. Maybe someone can find the source...

I am interested in hearing denial/confirmation on that rumor too.

arcanemacabre · May 26, 2008, 06:57 AM // 06:57

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Originally Posted by Longasc

I heard about a rumor that the Hom gets "closed" the moment GW2 goes online.

I don't remember exactly what was said, but if I'm not mistaken, it was something like:

Your character's HoM is 'closed' as soon as you link that character (ancestral line) to a new character in GW2. So you could technically keep working on your HoM as long as you never link that character to a newly made one in the sequel.

Kakumei · May 26, 2008, 07:06 AM // 07:06

Doom--and Quake, and all those--went open source years and years after their main popularity died down. GW will never release its source code--no MMO has, to my knowledge--and definitely not at GW2 release.

There's no discussion here--and definitely not a 'grand' one.

tmakinen · May 26, 2008, 07:47 AM // 07:47

There are two different things, client and server code. Something like the graphics engine that is implemented on the client side cannot hold any deep secrets because it can be disassembled at will but that is not the case with servers. What makes GW servers special is their ability to toss the client data and connection seamlessly between them. Opening up those protocols as long as the official servers run would be foolhardy.